Wayne A. Thorp, CFA is senior financial analyst at AAII and editor of Computerized Investing. Follow him on Twitter at @AAII_CI.


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I SUBSCRIBE TO SEVERAL INVESTMENT NEWSLETTERS AND THIS IS MY FIRST ASSOCIATION WITH AAII AND I FIND IT THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE AND HELPFUL. I HAVE LIMITED FUNDS SO JOUR ETF CATEGORY IS THE MOST HELPFUL RECOMMENDATIONS I,VE COME ACROSS I'M REVISING MY PORTFOLIO USING LESLIE,S concepts. I WILL DEFINITLLY RENEW MY SUB- SCRIPTION.

posted over 2 years ago by John from New Jersey

Masonson has recently simplified the dashboard recommended in his book by reducing the number of indicators from eight to four. The details, including for backtest results, are given at his blog: http://www.buydonthold.com/category/blog/

The change has resulted in better signals and a simpler system.

posted over 2 years ago by Dick from Illinois

I've seen Masonson's new Dashboard. Guess you can make just about any trading system work using past history (data mining). We'll see if he needs to change this again in a year.

posted over 2 years ago by Kenneth from Colorado

On ETFScreen.com, if the RSf is based on 6 month relative price change, why would sorting on it produce different rankings than sorting on the Rtn-6mo?

posted over 2 years ago by Joseph from North Carolina

Very useful.

posted over 2 years ago by Yefim from California

Excellent article. I already almost exclusively invest in ETFs - primarily for their diversification and liquidity. I've been ranking them using ETFscreen.com and attempting to pick a diverse bunch out of the top half of their RS rankings. I'm using a combination of MACD, moving EMAs, directional movement indicators, and Twigg's Money Flow to confirm entry/exit points. I've never noticed Masonson's section/dashboard there but I will go take a close look now.

Thank you.

posted over 2 years ago by Thomas from Illinois

In general, I consider ETFs to be the same as mutual funds: gambling vehicles designed to make money for the house, especially if you decide to hold them long term. Of course, the house in this case is everyone on the other side of the transaction from the investor.

posted over 2 years ago by Fernando from Florida

Not to detract from Masonson's work or strategy, I would offer these points.

* Just because an ETF has a high Relative Strength value doesn't mean its price is rising. - - - It could just mean it is not losing at much as the base it is being compared to.

* In a market with quite high correlation amongst investment alternatives (like the market over the last year or more), investing in several to many ETFs is superfuluous or near-redundant.

* As I and others have commented in posts elsewhere here in the AAII site (and as demonstrated in an article earlier in the year), while asset allocation does reduce risk, it does so only a little and it doesn't reduce it as much as it reduces total return.

* Much of the article above (and apparently Masonson's book) talk whether "the" market is rising or falling. Well, when one is addressing stock, bond, special metals, international, and sector ETFs, there are "multiple" markets. Not having read Masonson's book, I presume this means that his indicators (or muliple sets of indicators) need to be applied to each market to determine if it is rising or falling.

posted about 1 year ago by James from Ohio

One other point. I have not read the book. However, I suggest to any investor that before you adopt and use someone's investment strategy that you ask the developer / author two questions:

(1) If I had used your strategy during the financial crisis of 2008, how much would I have gained or lost?

(2) If I had used your strategy when the tech bubble burst in 2000, how much would I have gained or lost?

If the developer / author won't or can't answer those questions to your satisfaction, that should tell you a lot - - - and you should move on.

posted about 1 year ago by James from Ohio

James,

I agree with some, but not all, of your comments:

**relative strength: it can be up when the price is falling, so sorting on percent price change gives the same ranking and lets you see what's up;

**Yes we are in a highly correlated market, but is it all that important for a momentum strategy when you are checking weekly?

**"while asset allocation does reduce risk, it does so only a little and it doesn't reduce it as much as it reduces total return."

That's a subjective tradeoff, varying from person to person. All I can say is I'm glad I loaded up on bonds to get close to the minimum variance point.

** Evaluating investment strategies by looking at 2000 and 2008 may not be informative if the strategy has been tuned to look good during those times

posted about 1 year ago by R from California

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